That is correct. I was not in the room.
We were stationed in the hallway and tasked with preventing any interference with the execution of the sentence.
Yes, I mean the execution, the sentence was an execution. That’s what I meant.
Yes, ma’am, and to ensure that the body was properly handled.
I’m not personally familiar with the burial customs.
There were several employees of the state morgue, as well as a religious official of some kind responsible for that.
All I meant was, we were there to ensure that the body was properly secured and transported to the proper location. That nobody photographed it or stole it or whatever.
That is correct.
We learned about the video the same way you all did, on the Internet. I heard about it from—
Ma’am, we had no orders to search the staff, so I don’t know how we could have prevented it. It’s a local problem.
I wouldn’t have needed to speak the language to search someone for a camera phone.
No, that’s correct.
And I do appreciate your point. I just don’t think—
We were outside in the hallway, like I stated. You can actually see the hallway in the beginning of the video. Before the stairs to the gallows, which just looks like a big platform.
The guy with the camera would have been standing at the bottom of the stairs, you can tell from the angle.
There were no Americans in the room. We were stationed outside, in the hallway. We were under orders not to go into the room or participate in any way.
That’s correct. No Americans, no women.
Well, you can see in the video that they were all wearing masks, and everybody I saw go into the room was wearing a mask, but I can’t guarantee anything, seeing as there could have been some men already in the room before I was stationed outside. Or any of them could have removed their masks when they got in the room, obviously.
It was his request to leave his face uncovered. He was definitely offered the hood.
Not by me personally. I did not interact with the prisoner.
There were thousands of hangings under his regime, a lot of them in that room, as I understand.
I’m not an expert. I believe so.
I can’t speak to that.
When I first saw the video, I thought maybe it was his idea, that he had the guy do it.
To get his supporters outraged. So you can see his face.
That’s an advantage in terms of the video, but it was in no way necessary, there were doctors on hand to certify it was him, using fingerprints and other means. I personally saw him enter the room and saw his body exit it.
Stranger things have happened.
I’m not sure what they’re saying. He says something back, you can see his lips move.
From where I was I couldn’t hear.
I heard the shouting, absolutely. But as I said, we were under orders not to go in the room.
I thought I heard the crash when the trapdoor opens, like you hear it in the video, but I can’t say for sure.
One thing was the name of the insurgent leader, the cleric. His father was also a rebel. The father was executed back in the 90s and now the son runs half the city. He’s our real problem now.
That’s one way to look at it.
I’m not familiar with the customs. I heard he’s buried with his sons, in the same graveyard, which if you ask me seems like a pretty good deal.
The doctor was already in the room. Then the body was removed by a professional team, which we let in.
That is absolute rumor and speculation.
I’ve seen the photo. But maybe the rope did that, injured his neck like that. I’m not a forensic expert. I personally supervised the removal of the body and there was no interference of any kind whatsoever.
You think someone could have stabbed him a whole bunch of times without us noticing?
There wasn’t even any time. If it did happen, which in my opinion it absolutely did not, it happened off-site, when the body was in local custody.
That was not our responsibility.
Someone would have had to have a knife obviously, to cut the rope.
I can’t speak to that.
He was in a body bag when he passed us, it was unzipped so we could get a visual ID.
I can attest that we were all doing our due diligence.
No, that is correct.
It was not our responsibility to—
I don’t see how he could have been stabbed while he was alive because you see him die in the video. And don’t tell me that fall didn’t kill him. Either way there would have been blood in the room, and we saw no evidence—
In my personal and professional opinion.
It appears to be a stabbing wound, sure, but it’s just a photo and can be altered or whatever.
I don’t know anything about that. But he definitely would have been dead by then.
You said desecrated, ma’am, those were not my words. And the thing is, even if he deserved it, I agree—
You have no idea who these guys are working for, they could be working for him and five other guys, you don’t know. That’s how things are done there. It’s like, some of them are working for us and for the terrorists, every week, two paychecks. You have no idea, I mean listen to all the stuff people were shouting in there. I hope for the sake of law and order and the sort of peace of the country that nothing happened, but for him, it’s like, what can you expect. But nothing did happen, as I said, and if any of it happened, it was after he was already dead.
I think you’re missing the point, ma’am, is all.
Like I said, not under my immediate supervision.
Right. None of us saw anything with our own eyes.